{"id":1746,"date":"2025-03-25T20:08:04","date_gmt":"2025-03-25T20:08:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wartours.in.ua\/?p=1746"},"modified":"2025-03-25T20:10:25","modified_gmt":"2025-03-25T20:10:25","slug":"historien-om-roman-shvartsman-som-en-stemme-for-minne-og-motstand","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wartours.in.ua\/nb\/2025\/03\/25\/the-story-of-roman-shvartsman-as-a-voice-of-memory-and-resistance\/","title":{"rendered":"Historien om Roman Shvartsman som en stemme for minne og motstand"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"1746\" class=\"elementor elementor-1746\" data-elementor-settings=\"{&quot;element_pack_global_tooltip_width&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;sizes&quot;:[]},&quot;element_pack_global_tooltip_width_tablet&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;sizes&quot;:[]},&quot;element_pack_global_tooltip_width_mobile&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;sizes&quot;:[]},&quot;element_pack_global_tooltip_padding&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;top&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;right&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;bottom&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;left&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;isLinked&quot;:true},&quot;element_pack_global_tooltip_padding_tablet&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;top&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;right&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;bottom&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;left&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;isLinked&quot;:true},&quot;element_pack_global_tooltip_padding_mobile&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;top&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;right&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;bottom&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;left&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;isLinked&quot;:true},&quot;element_pack_global_tooltip_border_radius&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;top&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;right&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;bottom&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;left&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;isLinked&quot;:true},&quot;element_pack_global_tooltip_border_radius_tablet&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;top&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;right&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;bottom&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;left&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;isLinked&quot;:true},&quot;element_pack_global_tooltip_border_radius_mobile&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;top&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;right&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;bottom&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;left&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;isLinked&quot;:true}}\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-d9b78e8 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"d9b78e8\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-4688c76\" data-id=\"4688c76\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5f4721a elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"5f4721a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"630\" src=\"https:\/\/wartours.in.ua\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/shvarczman.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-1747\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wartours.in.ua\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/shvarczman.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/wartours.in.ua\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/shvarczman-300x189.jpg 300w, https:\/\/wartours.in.ua\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/shvarczman-768x484.jpg 768w, https:\/\/wartours.in.ua\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/shvarczman-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/wartours.in.ua\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/shvarczman-650x409.jpg 650w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-86ecfa0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"86ecfa0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"\" data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"170\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"170\">\u201cHitler ville drepe meg fordi jeg var j\u00f8de. N\u00e5 vil Putin drepe meg fordi jeg er ukrainer\u201d \u2013 Historien om Roman Shvartsman som en stemme for minne og motstand<\/strong><\/span><\/p><p class=\"\" data-start=\"193\" data-end=\"667\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Den 27. januar 2025 \u2013 den internasjonale minnedagen for Holocaust \u2013 skilte \u00e9n tale seg ut i salene i den tyske Forbundsdagen. Den ble holdt av Roman Shvartsman, en ukrainer som overlevde Holocaust som barn og har tilbrakt nesten 90 \u00e5r med \u00e5 v\u00e6re vitne til et av de m\u00f8rkeste kapitlene i det 20. \u00e5rhundre. I talen sin trakk han en direkte parallell mellom Hitler og Putin. Ordene hans var ikke bare minner \u2013 de var en advarsel til verden: historien gjentar seg.<\/span><\/p><blockquote data-start=\"669\" data-end=\"781\"><p class=\"\" data-start=\"671\" data-end=\"781\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cDen gang ville Hitler drepe meg fordi jeg var j\u00f8de. N\u00e5 vil Putin drepe meg fordi jeg er ukrainer.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote><p class=\"\" data-start=\"783\" data-end=\"1095\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Disse ordene h\u00f8rtes ut som b\u00e5de en dom og en alarm. Ikke bare om fortiden, men ogs\u00e5 om n\u00e5tiden. Russland, som invaderte Ukraina, \u00f8delegger sivilbefolkninger, raserer byer, deporterer barn og bringer en hatefull ideologi til de okkuperte omr\u00e5dene \u2013 akkurat som Det tredje riket en gang gjorde.<\/span><\/p><h3 class=\"\" data-start=\"1097\" data-end=\"1138\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Hukommelse som et v\u00e5pen mot glemsel<\/span><\/h3><p class=\"\" data-start=\"1140\" data-end=\"1524\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Roman Shvartsman har viet livet sitt til \u00e5 s\u00f8rge for at verden aldri glemmer hva folk er i stand til n\u00e5r de er blindet av ideologi. Han grunnla dusinvis av Holocaust-minnesmerker over hele S\u00f8r-Ukraina \u2013 i Odessa, Domanivka, Balta og Bohdanivka \u2013 steder der j\u00f8der ble massakrert under nazistenes okkupasjon. I dag er mange av disse samme regionene igjen i brann \u2013 denne gangen fra russiske bomber.<\/span><\/p><p class=\"\" data-start=\"1526\" data-end=\"1673\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I sin tale til Forbundsdagen minnet Shvartsman verden om at historiel\u00e6rdommene ikke bare finnes i l\u00e6reb\u00f8ker. N\u00e5r vi ignorerer dem, gjentar tragediene seg.<\/span><\/p><h3 class=\"\" data-start=\"1675\" data-end=\"1717\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Krigsreise som en vei til forst\u00e5else<\/span><\/h3><p class=\"\" data-start=\"1719\" data-end=\"2004\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong data-start=\"1719\" data-end=\"1732\">Krigsturer<\/strong> ble ikke skapt for underholdning, men som et verkt\u00f8y for utdanning og erindring. Vi tar folk med til steder der historien taler gjennom ruiner, skyttergraver, museer og minnesmerker. Der du ikke bare kan se, men <em data-start=\"1939\" data-end=\"1945\">f\u00f8le<\/em> hvor skj\u00f8r fred er \u2013 og hvor lett den kan \u00f8delegges.<\/span><\/p><p class=\"\" data-start=\"2006\" data-end=\"2317\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Roman Shvartsman er et symbol p\u00e5 hvordan personlig smerte kan bli et nasjonalt minne. Et minne vi streber etter \u00e5 dele med alle som bes\u00f8ker Ukraina. Minneturisme handler ikke bare om fortiden. Det handler om en n\u00e5tid som formes akkurat n\u00e5. Det handler om bevissthet som ikke er f\u00f8dt i komfort, men i direkte konfrontasjon med sannheten.<\/span><\/p><p class=\"\" data-start=\"2319\" data-end=\"2570\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">N\u00e5r vi viser turister gamle j\u00f8diske ghettoer eller slagmarker i n\u00e6rheten av Kyiv eller Kharkiv, gir vi ikke bare en omvisning \u2013 vi fortsetter oppdraget til folk som Shvartsman. Fordi han minner oss p\u00e5: ondskap vender alltid tilbake i nye former hvis vi ikke nevner det h\u00f8yt.<\/span><\/p><h3 class=\"\" data-start=\"2572\" data-end=\"2620\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Hvorfor sammenligner Shvartsman Putin med Hitler?<\/span><\/h3><p class=\"\" data-start=\"2622\" data-end=\"2904\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dette er ikke emosjonell retorikk \u2013 det er en historisk diagnose. Begge fors\u00f8kte (og fors\u00f8ker) \u00e5 utrydde folk for den de er: j\u00f8der, ukrainere, dissidenter. Begge rettferdiggjorde volden sin med fabrikkerte myter om \u201cytre fiender\u201d. Begge hadde som m\u00e5l \u00e5 utslette nasjoner, kulturer og friheter.<\/span><\/p><p class=\"\" data-start=\"2906\" data-end=\"3078\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dette er ikke en overdrivelse. Det er konklusjonen til noen som <em data-start=\"2968\" data-end=\"2973\">sag<\/em> fascismen p\u00e5 n\u00e6rt hold \u2013 og n\u00e5 ser han den igjen. Denne gangen fra \u00f8st, i form av den \u201crussiske verden\u201d.\u201d<\/span><\/p><h3 class=\"\" data-start=\"3080\" data-end=\"3108\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00c5 huske er \u00e5 motst\u00e5<\/span><\/h3><p class=\"\" data-start=\"3110\" data-end=\"3365\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Roman Shvartsman er ikke bare et vitne til historien. Han er dens fortsettelse. Ordene hans er en p\u00e5minnelse om at Ukraina i dag ikke bare er en slagmark, men et minnefelt. Og de som kommer hit for \u00e5 se, h\u00f8re og forst\u00e5 \u2013 blir en del av denne motstanden.<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Hitler wanted to kill me because I was Jewish. 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